Sinful Nature's Effort to Control

SPEAKER B Jesus promised his disciples in Acts One eight, you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be witnesses to me in Jerusalem and in all here and Samaria and to the end of the earth. Welcome to. You shall receive power. And here are your hosts, Ettienne McClintock and Colin Hone. SPEAKER C Greetings and a warm welcome. Thank you for tuning in today to the program you shall receive power with Colin Hone and Ettienne McClintock. We are continuing our series of programs from the book 50 Days Prayers and Devotionals to prepare for Christ's soon return and of course also preceding that to prepare for the latter rain. Now, as we start our program, we just invite you to please bow with us in prayer. Gracious Father in heaven, we have been enjoying these studies in Your Word to understand righteousness, to understand the importance of receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit because this is the way in which we are reconciled. We are connected to you. And Father, we're just thankful for this intimate relationship you offer each one of us. And Father, we want to continue to progress down this path where we are filled with the Holy Spirit that we can actually taste and see how good you are. And we pray that you'll bless the listener, Father, that you'll bless Colin and myself today as we lead in the study of Your Word. May all be blessed, may all be drawn closer to You, Father, and may Your Holy Spirit illuminate our minds to understand spiritual things. This we pray in Jesus name. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER C Amen. See, our program today is on day 27 and the heading is Sinful Nature Efforts to Control. So that will be an interesting topic there because I think one of the things that we'll start to bring out a little bit more in this Colin is an understanding of our humanity and the futility of us trying to save ourselves by our own works. Therefore we need a power outside of ourselves to do that. SPEAKER E That's true. And we're born with this sinful nature that we've inherited, a sinful nature and we might define what sin is even today, great and from God's word what sin is, but we have the best. SPEAKER C Way to define it, definitely. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E What is sin? But we have this sinful nature and because of this sinful nature, we can have what's called this Christian struggle. You become a Christian and you have this struggle of wanting to obey God. Now, the non believer does not have the struggle that the Christian has. It's called the unconverted man in the Bible. He doesn't have the Spirit of God and is not controlled by his and he's controlled by his carnal mind completely. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E Okay, but according to Paul, the carnal mind is at enmity against God. And enmity means he's at war. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E For he's not subject to the law of God, neither can he be that's found in Romans, chapter eight, verse seven, where he's not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can he. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C That word carnal, there is the word that's often translated as flesh as well in the Bible is the Greek word sark said, means to be fleshly minded. So, in other words, to be controlled by our senses, by our appetites. SPEAKER E Yeah. By our desires. SPEAKER C Yes, that's right. SPEAKER E By our desires of the flesh. Now, so the non Christian does not obey rules or laws because God has put it in his heart to do so. He obeys for personal, like you said, carnal reasons, for personal, selfish reasons because of social pressure. Example, he might do things because it's socially acceptable to do things. Or perhaps he was raised in a principled home and has a conscience that leads him to live a respectable life. Now, Ellen White writes this beautiful makes this beautiful comment in Steps to Christ, page 58. This is an awesome book, by the way, steps to Christ, great little book. I'm actually reading again at the moment and I read the first couple of chapters the last couple of night and it really explains how God is love and how much he loves us and how it's demonstrated in creation, how he demonstrates his love through sending his Son. It's just a beautiful book called Steps to Christ. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C The size and the normity of the sacrifice demonstrates the love. SPEAKER E Amazing. But in Steps to Christ, page 58 you just want to read that for us, please? SPEAKER C Sure. It is true that there may be an outward correctness of deportment without the renewing power of Christ. The love of influence and the desire for the esteem of others may produce a well ordered life. Self respect may lead us to avoid the appearance of evil. A selfish heart may perform generous actions. And that's page 58 steps to Christ. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E So what you're saying is because of our environment, you know what I mean, our selfish we might appear to do the right thing, but the motives aren't the right motives. SPEAKER D Right. SPEAKER E That's what it's all about. SPEAKER C The motive is it's about our reputation and our respect and respect that others we want to generate from others on us. SPEAKER E There's selfish reasons. Yeah. Now the Christian, on the other hand, obeys God because the Spirit of God has put the desire to obey in his heart. And we can find that in Romans, chapter six, verse 17. Romans six, verse 17 says, but God. SPEAKER C Be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which you were delivered. SPEAKER E That's right. And I love verse 18. Being then made free from sin, you became servants of righteousness. Okay. SPEAKER D Beautiful. SPEAKER C It also shows that the importance, if obedience comes from the heart, it has to come from the right doctrine and understanding the beautiful, loving character of our heavenly Father. SPEAKER E Yeah. And remember, the Bible says the heart is deceitful above all things. It's desperately wicked. Who can know it? SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E And that's why God has to give us a new heart and put new desires into our heart to obey his law. So the bornagain individual very much wants to carry out God's will in their life. And Paul calls this delighting in the law of God after the inward man. In Romans, chapter seven, verse 22. You got that? Let's read that. SPEAKER C Romans seven, verse 22 says, for I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. SPEAKER E That's right. So he talks about his delights in the law of God. And so under the new covenant promise that has been made available because of Jesus death on the cross and resurrection under this new covenant that God has made, the Holy Spirit begins writing God's law on our hearts and our minds under the new covenant. And you can read that in Hebrews chapter eight, verse eight to ten. Hebrews, chapter eight, verse eight to ten. SPEAKER C And the apostle Paul says here, because finding fault with them, he says this is god says, behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant and I disregarded them, says the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord, I will put my laws in their mind and write them on their hearts. I will be their God and they shall be my people. SPEAKER D There you go. SPEAKER E So under the new covenant and the old covenant, the basis of the covenant was the Ten Commandments. SPEAKER C That's right. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E That was the basis of the covenant, was the basis of God's law, the Ten Commandments. But what did it say there? God's going to Israel didn't keep the covenant? SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E So God says, I'm going to have a new covenant. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C The law external to the human experience is only administration of death because we cannot keep it. But when it's written in the mind and in the heart, it becomes a principle and the action of the human life, the human soul. So then we by nature, because of the supernatural thing that God has done for us, giving us this new heart and new desires and new motives, we now live in obedience to the commandments of God, not because they're arbitrary, but because we love God and we are fulfilling the law of love. SPEAKER E So God wants to write his law or his Ten Commandments on it says, on our where? On our mind, in our hearts and in our hearts, the thoughts and feelings. That's right. So there he is writing his law on our hearts. Now also, we can confirm this in two Corinthians, chapter three, verse three, where. SPEAKER C It says, clearly, you are an epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone, but on tablets of flesh that is of the heart. SPEAKER E Now, an epistle basically is a letter. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E Okay. And so what he's saying here is, what did God write on the tablets of stone? What did he write? SPEAKER C Law. SPEAKER E The Ten Commandments. Yes, but in fleshly tables of the heart. He wants to write this on our heart. I remember when I was in the Philippines and we had a whole bunch of different denominations coming together once a month, and they asked me to speak, and I actually mentioned that verse. And a lot of people who thought that law was done away with, that the Ten Commandments were done away with when they read that verse and they said, wow, God wants to write His Ten Commandments on our heart. Many of them actually decided that they wanted God to write his law on their hearts and they wanted to obey God's Ten Commandments. SPEAKER C So how can there be a teaching that says that God has done away with the law when he actually says under the new covenant, which is the. SPEAKER E Covenant that saves everybody, and the covenant. SPEAKER C Will write the same law that was on the tables of stone? We just read it there in two Corinthians, chapter three, verse three. SPEAKER E So the basis of the covenant is God's law. Under the old covenant, he wrote it on stone and Moses brought the law to them and he read it and they said everything the Lord says we will do. SPEAKER C That's right. They didn't realize that they couldn't do it. SPEAKER E They were trying to do it by their own effort. And God says he let him go, didn't he? Said, okay, he had to learn, didn't he? We had to learn the hard way or Israel had to learn the hard way. But on the new covenant, the awesome good news is God's going to put that on our hearts and give us a desire to obey Him. It's a supernatural, as you said, a supernatural thing that God does. SPEAKER D Absolutely. SPEAKER E To give us a desire to want to obey God's. God's, Lord. SPEAKER C Paul even says there in Romans chapter nine and verse 31, it says, but Israel pursuing the law of righteousness. So obviously the laws, the principles of righteousness has not attained to the law of righteousness. And then verse 32, why? So he asks the question and then he answers it, because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. SPEAKER E That's exactly right. In Romans three, it goes on about they're trying to justify themselves by keeping the law. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And then paul sort of unpacking and says, listen, you're not under law, you're under grace. But then he makes it clear, because many Christians have said, oh, well, we're not under God's law. Ten Commandments. We don't have to keep Ten commandments. But then if you read Romans, chapter three, verse 31, he says, do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid. Yeah, we establish the law. So it's just a new arrangement. God puts the law in our hearts. SPEAKER C New arrangement. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C And establishing the law through faith doesn't actually make void the law like you're saying. So there's something faulty in that understanding regarding the Gospel. SPEAKER E I mean, have you ever imagined, could you imagine what the earth would be like if God wrote God's Ten Commandments on our hearts and minds for every human being on this earth? What would it be like, the planet? Well, there'd be no heaven on Earth, wouldn't it? There'd be no murder, there would be no stealing, there'd be no adultery, there'd be no fornication, there'd be no diseases, no anger, there'd be no covetedness yeah. SPEAKER C No lying. SPEAKER E You could leave your house open. SPEAKER C Imagine no slander, no gossip courts, no police. SPEAKER E Could you imagine what the world would be like? It basically would be like heaven. And that's what heaven's going to be like. SPEAKER C Place to look forward to. SPEAKER E It's awesome. So, however, what happens though, is, let's say we understand that and we believe this new covenant, and we ask God, the new believer, though, or the new Christian discovers very quickly that there is another very strong desire in him. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And that desire is for sin. Now that he has the spirit of God, he is aware of his sinful desires, where before many of those desires didn't really concern him. I remember before I became a Christian, I didn't care about sinning. I liked it, I wanted to sin, I enjoyed it. I didn't even think about it. SPEAKER C Probably didn't even feel guilty about it. SPEAKER E I didn't. SPEAKER C Or ashamed. SPEAKER E That's right. But now, all of a sudden, you become aware of your sinful desires. Before that didn't really concern us. So we've got this war within us. And so the Christian discovers that there are now two natures residing in him. One that desires to follow sin, and the other desires to obey God. So you've got these fighting natures in us. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And so Paul clearly describes the intense conflict experienced by every Christian when he wrote in that verse we just wrote, which was, we know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do for what I want to do, I do not do. But what I hate, I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good as it is. It is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know there's nothing good lives in me that is in my sinful nature, for I have the desire to do what is good. So he wants to do what's good. SPEAKER C That's right. SPEAKER E But I cannot carry it out. SPEAKER C He can will, but he can't do. SPEAKER E I want to do it, but I can't do it. For what I do is not the good I want to do. It's the evil I do not want to do. And this I keep on doing. Now, if I do what I do not want to do, it's no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So again, he finds this law at work with him. When he wants to do good, evil is right there with him. Now, interesting, he goes on and continues on in Romans seven. He says, for in my inner being, I delight in God's law, doesn't he? He says, in my inner being. But I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work with my members. Then he says these words, what a wretched man I am who will rescue me from this body of death, thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ, our law. SPEAKER C Yeah, that's an interesting statement, and that's one that's perplexed many people over the years. Is Paul talking about a truly converted person here, or is he talking about an unconverted person? And I'm saying, well, it's neither, or it's actually a partial conversion. It's actually a lukewarm condition, because if you look at the introduction to Romans, chapter seven, which follows on from Romans six, if you understand Romans six, seven makes a lot more sense. But it talks about four elements. There talks about a wife, talks about the law, and then about the first husband, and then it comes on seeing a second husband. So this woman is in a relationship with her first husband. SPEAKER E So she's married. SPEAKER C She's married, yes. So the law which ties her to a husband is enforced, and until the law of the same flesh, well, she can't divorce him because the law won't. SPEAKER E Allow her to come until he dies. SPEAKER C Yeah, he's got to die. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C So the first husband's got to die. So what happens is she sees a second husband, she falls in love with a second husband. Now, if she marries a second husband while the first one's alive, she's committing adultery. SPEAKER E Yes. SPEAKER C If the second husband dies, she's released from it. So what? SPEAKER E Paul then explains, sorry, first husband dies, then she can actually marry the second. SPEAKER C Then she can marry the second husband. So what he does, he explains, here a person that has fallen in love with Jesus, but the first husband, which is sin, our sinful, human nature, our. SPEAKER E Flesh is still alive. SPEAKER C Our desire is still. And you see that in verse four. And five. So what happens is the first husband is still alive. So then the law of sin still has control over them, although they now are in love with the second husband, but they're in adulterous relationship. So it's not until the first husband actually dies that you release from that law. And now the same law that condemned the relationship now can actually sanction the new relationship because the first husband is gone. He's gone. He's moved out of the way and in Jesus Christ, he's been crucified as well, as it says in verse four of Romans seven. SPEAKER E So the first husband, which is sin, has to die. SPEAKER C He has to die, which is us. We got to deny self, take up our cross and follow Jesus. That's right. SPEAKER E All right. But I guess even as a Christian, and I don't know how long you've been a Christian, I've been, say, 25 years now. And I'm sure every listener can identify with the struggle Paul describes, though. Sure. Let's be honest, I can relate to it. We struggle often experience this struggle day by day, month after month and year after year, and we never seem to obtain the victory that we want to have over. SPEAKER D Right. SPEAKER E You know, we're wanting to have this victory. And every Christian is well aware of the fact that there is a law of sin dwelling within them. You know what I mean? SPEAKER C Yes, that's right. The flesh always is with us, and we've got to constantly deny it because. SPEAKER E We'Re going to have a sinful nature until Jesus returns, until glorification we're going to have this sinful nature, aren't we? SPEAKER C We're going to have that fallen flesh. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E But we don't have to be a slave to it. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E Yeah. That's the thing. SPEAKER C The promise of the Gospel is that we can, through Christ, become partakers of the divine nature even while we are still walking in the flesh. SPEAKER E So he can subdue that and die ourselves to that. And basically what you're saying is we can have God's nature implanted and it's a gift. Wow, that's an awesome it's an awesome gift. So we have this war and we've got a desire we want to obey God, because let's be honest, before you're a Christian, you didn't care. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E But once you become a Christian, you're aware of God's law and you want to obey God's law because you love Him. SPEAKER C When you see the beauty and the lovingness of the second husband, you want to obey Him and you attract it to Him. SPEAKER E But you soon find it's pretty well, it's very impossible or difficult to do that. Our sinful nature constantly seeks to make us a slave to the law of sin, doesn't it? SPEAKER D Yes, it does. SPEAKER E So what do we do as a Christian when we experience this intense struggle and sin in our life? And then you get this voice in your head come. This voice sort of tells you, and I believe it's the devil coming to you and says, you're not even a Christian. You're not even a Christian. He goes, here's the truth of them. The truth that we're struggling is evidence that you are a Christian, I believe. But because non Christians, as a non Christian, there was no struggle, was it? SPEAKER D Yeah, he didn't care. SPEAKER E There was no struggle and all of a sudden you've got a struggle. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E That's the very evidence that you are a Christian. You are struggling. SPEAKER C It's definitely evidence that the spirit of God is working with you. He may not be in you yet, but he's definitely with you. You know those programs we did earlier, Colin, where we spoke about Jesus promising the comforter? He says, if you love me, then keep my commandments and I'll pray the Father to send you another comforter, even the spirit of truth. And then it says, for you know him, for he is with you. Yes, and shall be in you. So I think the shall be in you part in Romans seven is not there yet. The with you part is definitely there's. Definitely conviction. There no question about it. SPEAKER E That's right. So like you said before, you didn't even have a struggle when you're a non Christian, but now you're a Christian, and I'm sure you can relate to that. You have struggles. We all do. SPEAKER D We do. That's right. SPEAKER E And I believe the reason there was no struggle is because the Christian has accepted Christ and takes the sin problem in his life seriously, that he has the struggle. SPEAKER C This man is sincerely struggling with sin. There's no insincerity, I can't find any insincerity in the writing there. SPEAKER E But he soon recognizes the impossibility of obeying God due to the power of sin in life. And then Paul cries out, what a wretched man that, you know, who's going to rescue me from this body of death? And I guess every sincere crescent has experienced or expresses the same crying out to God. We say, God, who's going to deliver me from this struggle? This struggle? And then Paul gives us the answer. He then declares that deliverance from the law of sin can only happen through Jesus Christ our Lord. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER E So in a minute, we're going to look at the solution. We've got the problem and the struggle here that we all have. And the solution is in Romans chapter eight. You got to keep reading. SPEAKER C You got to keep reading. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C Look, these headings, these chapter headings in. SPEAKER E Chapter or Romans chapter six, for example, tells us what's possible. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E Victory over sin is possible. Romans seven says, but here's the struggle. And Roman eight comes out and says, here is the solution. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C It's a continuous writing and Paul is actually repeating and enlarging on some of the statements he made earlier to explain them. SPEAKER E So let's read Romans chapter eight, verse one to four. Let's read that where Paul lays out the solution to this dilemma that every Christian faces wanting to obey God, but being powerless within themselves to do it, we can't do it within ourselves. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E So what does Paul say? SPEAKER C Yeah, so he's talking about this man feeling the strong condemnation of the law because he can't find the power within himself to do it. But it says there in verse one of Romans, chapter eight, there is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. And the Spirit of the law of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. So there's freedom there. SPEAKER E Now that's talking about your marriage thing, isn't it? SPEAKER C Yeah, that's right. SPEAKER E So you're saying you've been free from that, you're not under condemnation now. SPEAKER C That's right. And that's all come through Christ. And as we look at Hebrews seven, verse four, it says there, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ. So we died with Christ that you be married to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. So verse two says that the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, which is the same action, has made me free from the law of sin and death. And then it says this interesting thing. It says what the law could not do in other words, you can't by the works of the law affect this. What the law could not do in it was weak through the flesh. This is our fallen flesh, our sinful nature, carnal nature. That's right. It was weak through the flesh. God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh. And then on account of sin, he condemned sin in the flesh. In fallen flesh he condemned it. And then it says in verse four that what purpose? That the righteous requirements of the law may be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh, the fallen human nature, but walk according to the Spirit. So that baptism, the Holy Spirit, is so important. SPEAKER E So the secret is to walk according to the Spirit. Another version says that God, by sending His Son, his own Son, in the likeness of sinful man, to be a sin offering. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And so he condemns sin in sinful man in order the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us who don't live according to the sinful nature, but according to the Spirit. So the secret is to live according to the Spirit, to be daily baptized with the Holy Spirit, to have daily Christ live out his righteous life in and through you. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER E So as Christians, we've got to let Jesus live through us. The law of Spirit, of life has set us free from the law of sin and death. Put another way, we must let jesus live out his life in and through the baptism of the Holy Spirit. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER E This is, I guess, what Paul says, walking in the Spirit when he says we are to walk in the Spirit. And he further elaborates on his letter in Galatians. In Galatians. He says in Galatians, chapter five, verse 16 and 17. Can you read that? SPEAKER D Sure. SPEAKER C It says, I say, Then walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. SPEAKER E There you go. Let's just stop right there. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E Because I think he just made a very clear statement. SPEAKER D Very clear. SPEAKER E He says, Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Well, that's the answer. SPEAKER C The man in Romans seven is still walking in the flesh. He's wanting to walk in the Spirit. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C But if he follows this counsel here, if he walked in the Spirit, he will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So there's got to be one or the other. SPEAKER D Right. SPEAKER E Because the flesh lust continues on. It says, for the flesh lusts after this against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. And these are contrary to one another, so they cannot do the things that they would. SPEAKER C That's right. So if you just read verse 17 by itself, it'd be very confusing. Now, what are the things that you want to do that you can't do? Because it says the flesh lusts against a spirit, spirit against the flesh. So there's conflict between the two. These are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. Now, are these the good things that you wish to do or the bad things that you wish to do? If you look in the context of verse 16, it's the bad things you wish to do that you no longer do, because if you walk in the Spirit, you will no longer fulfill the lust of the flesh. SPEAKER E So there's beautiful. Living a Christian life. SPEAKER D Yeah. Amen. SPEAKER C That is a beautiful promise. We got to receive it by faith. SPEAKER E It's to walk by the Spirit and have Christ living out his life in and through you daily, moment by moment, throughout the day, continually looking to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. SPEAKER C That's right. It's a state of continuous surrender, but we delight in it because we have the continuous infilling of the Holy Spirit. The transaction is so beautiful. Why would we not deny ourselves the things that cause shame and concern for us and failure and defeat when we can actually walk in the Spirit, receive the fullness of Christ living in us, continually have that close communion with heaven, with their Creator. Incredible. What a gift. I mean, it's really just a bad deal, isn't it? Not from our perspective. But why would you want to go and live in the flesh? That is the bad deal. You've been given so much by God. SPEAKER E I remember Enoch. Remember, Enoch must have walked by the Spirit. Yeah, because he walked straight into heaven. SPEAKER D He did. SPEAKER E He walked straight into heaven by faith. 300 years he walked in the Spirit. And so we need to have that experience of Enoch and we need to have the faith of Jesus and Jesus living out his life. So we just need to pray and ask God or Christ to live out his life in and through us and walk by the Spirit. And then we won't walk. Have the lust of the flesh. There's a secret. SPEAKER C That is the secret. Well, Colin, we're coming very close to the end of the first half of this program. But I think, just in summary, what we've spoken about so far is we've spoken about the importance of understanding that our flesh has hostility towards God. We start there in Romans, chapter eight, verse seven. SPEAKER E Struggle, isn't there? SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C It says that the carnal mind is immity against God. It's not even subject to his law, and it cannot be. So while we walk in the flesh, we cannot keep the law of God. We can't do the good things we want to. We may be able to will if we've experienced the love of God and if we've been drawn to him as it talks about as the first husband. But how to find that is an impossible. 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SPEAKER E Yeah, well, we just left on in Galatians, chapter five, verse 16 and 17, where it says, when Paul says this, I say, then walk in the Spirit and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So he's just given us the answer. To not fulfill the lust of the flesh is by walking in the and so because he says they're contrary to one another, you can't have both. That's right, yeah. And so in the New Testament, there's several expressions that are actually referring to the same experience. So about walking the spirit. For example, it might use the term abide in Christ or Christ abides in you, walk in the Spirit or Christ in you. We have the mind of Christ. They're all referring to Christ living out his life in you through the Holy Spirit. That's what it means to walk in the Spirit is to have Jesus abiding in you or have the mind of Christ means to walk in the Spirit. And so many Christians say, am I really a Christian? And when a Christian experiences the struggle with sin and often loses the battle, he's tempted to question if he really is a Christian. And I want you to remember, listeners, at such times it is important to remember that if it's your heartfelt desire to obey God that gives evidence of the Spirit's presence in your life, the. SPEAKER C Spirit is with you and convicting you, and he's working on you and putting. SPEAKER E On your heart to want to even obey God. And if you have the Spirit of Christ, you belong to Christ. Romans, chapter eight, verse nine, says that if you have the Spirit of Christ, you belong to Christ. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C So Romans eight, verse nine says, and you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit. If indeed the Spirit of Christ dwells in you. SPEAKER E If the word if is a conditional word, isn't it? SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E If the Spirit of Christ dwells in you, then you belong to Christ. SPEAKER C And it says, now, if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. He is not his. SPEAKER E Yeah. Now, it's because you are a Christian that you're having this struggle. That's the whole point. So don't let the devil or someone get in your head and say you're not even a Christian. The fact that you're even having this struggle means you are a Christian. The Holy Spirit is working on your heart. It's working. It's convicting you. And it's also important to remember that God actually understands the struggles you're having with sin. It's because of His Spirit dwelling in you that you're even having this struggle that he's coming in you. And convicting you and saying, convicting you of sin and leading you to Jesus, you now have the born again spiritual nature along with your natural born sinful nature dwelling in you. So you've got these two natures dwelling you, and these two natures are a constant conflict with each other. And from the moment of your new birth, you have been covered with the righteous of Christ. And we can find that in Romans, chapter five, verse 19. Romans five, verse 19, where it says, for as by one man's disobedience, many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. And again we got in. What's the next one? Romans, chapter ten, verse four. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C It says, For Christ is the end of the law. Now the word end there is tell us. It means the aim, the object, the goal of the law. Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. SPEAKER D Wow. SPEAKER E It's a great promise. So basically, Christ has freed you from the guilt and penalty of sin. And we can read in Isaiah, chapter 53, verse five and six, here is a prophecy, 700 years written before Jesus was born about the Messiah. Anyone want to read that? It's an awesome verse. SPEAKER C Yeah, so, Isaiah 53, verse five, but he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we are healed. So through all this chastisement and suffering of Christ, we are healed. And then verse six, all we like sheep, have gone astray, we have turned everyone to his own way, and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. SPEAKER E So who's sin? Another word for iniquity is sin. So who's he laid our sins upon who? SPEAKER D Upon Christ. SPEAKER E It's been laid upon Christ. Upon Christ. And so therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without deeds of the Lord. We're justified by having faith in what Christ has done for us, that he took our sins upon him, and so that frees us from the guilt and penalty of sin. Okay, so that's the good news of the Gospel. Yeah. And so the struggle you have with your sinful nature does not change that fact. Yeah, it's not going to change that. If you struggle with sin and you fail, jesus Christ is still your advocate. So if you struggle with sin and you fail, jesus Christ is still your advocate with the Father. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E One John two, chapter two, verse one. SPEAKER C Says, my little children, these things are right to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. SPEAKER E So what's he saying there? He's saying, hey, listen, I don't want you to sin, but if you do, we have an advocate with the Father Jesus. SPEAKER C That's why Jesus is the advocate. It's for times like that he's a. SPEAKER E High priest, isn't he? SPEAKER C We can go boldly to the throne of grace to obtain help in time of need. SPEAKER E And then my favorite verse in the whole Bible, first John, chapter one, verse nine. SPEAKER C If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. SPEAKER E So there we have he's faithful to forgive our sins and so that we're justified. And not only that, he'll also cleanse us from unrighteous. He will remove it and cleanse us or sanctify us or make us holy. It's an awesome. He's going to do it all for us if we confess our sins. SPEAKER D Wow. SPEAKER E He will also do this. So do not let Satan take away from you the insurance of salvation you have in Christ. In one John, chapter five, verse eleven to 13, paul calls this the helmet of salvation. One John, chapter five, verse eleven to 13. SPEAKER C And it says, and this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life. And this life is in his son. He who has the Son has life. He who does not have the Son does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. SPEAKER E So there's an assurance, isn't there? If you have the Son, you have life. That's the good news. And Ephesians, chapter six, verse 17 says, and take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. So you may have struggled with some besetting sins for years and have yet to gain the complete victory. Remember when Peter asked Jesus if he could forgive someone even seven times? Peter goes to Jesus, says, hey, listen, how many times do I have to forgive my brother? How many times do I have to forgive someone? And he said, Is it seven times, Jesus? SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E And what did Jesus say to Peter? SPEAKER C Wow, it's an interesting statement. He says 70 times seven or 77. That really comes from the Book of Daniel, where God said that 77s or 490 years were to be cut off. SPEAKER E For Israel, the Messiah would come. SPEAKER C Yeah, that's right. And of course their probation would close after that unless they did a number of things, which are six things, but we don't have time to go into that now at the moment. SPEAKER E Yeah, but basically what he's saying is, hey, listen, 490 times. SPEAKER C Yeah, that's right. SPEAKER E And that's just for a person, and God is so merciful. And so if Peter would have asked eight times, jesus would have said 88 times, I reckon 80 times. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C It's more than seven. Keep on forgiving yeah. SPEAKER E The point Christ was making is that the Christian is to forgive someone as many times as they ask us to forgive them. And God is no less forgiving than he requires us to be, is he? As often we ask God to forgive us, he forgives us. SPEAKER C God expects us to forgive, just as he forgives. And our forgiving should be an example of that. It says Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. SPEAKER E I remember a famous preacher, Jay Hudson Taylor, he had the same struggle and he described it in the introduction in his book. We talked about it before. For years he faced a failure and defeat, not being able to achieve the victory over temptation and sin he so desperately longed for. And his letter to his mother stated he at times questioned if he even was a Christian because of the struggles. Yes, and I know I've said that. Am I even a Christian? SPEAKER D Sure. SPEAKER C And look, and Martin Luther went through the same experience as mean you being. SPEAKER E A Christian, the fact that you're struggling means you are a Christian. And he would often fall back on the insurance of salvation he had in Christ. This struggle continued until he discovered the marvellous truth of what it means to abide in Christ and let him live out his life in him. From that moment forward, he was a new man in Christ. The secret of overcoming is not trying to overcome through your own efforts. The secret of overcoming is to surrender to Christ and ask Him to live out his life of victory in and through you. Because Jesus had the victory and he wants to give his victory to you. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C It's almost a contradiction in terms to think that victory comes through surrender. You use the word surrender there before, but it's not surrendered to the sin, it's surrendered to Christ. SPEAKER E Surrender to Christ and ask Him to give his victory that he already had when he lived on this earth. Lord, give me your victory. Come and live in my life and have the victory for me and through me. Then you have what Jesus says you have the peace that he promised you. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E Because then you're asking Him to do it and that gives you the peace. So what's the problem? The problem with a struggling Christian is not that he doesn't want to obey God. The problem is that they don't know how to live a consistently obedient life. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E They just don't know how. And that's what this 50 days devotional is really about. It's to help the born again Christian to find that simple yet elusive truth of how to let Christ live out his life in them. And when you discover this truth, there will no longer be a struggle with temptation. Because the problem is you're normally focusing on the temptation. And when you're focusing on the temptation, you are trying to fight it through your own efforts. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C Peter was able to do the impossible because Jesus said to him, Come. And he walked on the water and then he looked at the boisterous waves around him, his focus went off Jesus, and he started to sink. SPEAKER E That's right. SPEAKER C So if our focus remains on Jesus like you're saying, we can do things that appear impossible. SPEAKER E That's right. So the only struggle will be is to decide if you want Christ to give you the victory over that particular sin. That's the only struggle. And you can even ask Jesus, lord, give me a desire to even want to have the victory over sin. And he'll even give you the desire to say, lord, I want to have the victory. Let's say you love something and you don't even want to give it up, but you know it's wrong. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And so we're going to tell you how to go to Christ to have that victory, but you might even don't want to even give that up. You might love it too much. So you can even ask God, have. SPEAKER D A T shirt for it. SPEAKER C I think you got a T shirt. SPEAKER E You can go to God and say, jesus, even give me the desire to even want to have the victory over this sin, and he'll give that to you. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C Sometimes I've had to pray that prayer, lord, make me willing to be willing, because I'm not even willing. And the Lord has done that. It surprises me how the Lord has answered that prayer, because I know it's wrong, but I desire to do the wrong thing because I enjoy it. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER C And then I said, Lord, you have to take this away from me. I'm willing for you to make me willing so you can take it away. SPEAKER E Lord, help me to be willing to be willing. SPEAKER C Willing to be willing. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER E That's right. So right now you might be thinking, okay, that just can't be true. Or you might be receiving hope that there really is no answer. Maybe you're believing there is no answer to the struggle you are having, and I pray that you are receiving hope. After all, the Bible says that as many as received him to them, he gave power to become sons of God. In other words, Jesus is saying as many as receive Christ, he then gives you power to become sons of God. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E That's found in John, chapter one, verse twelve. And the word translated power comes from the Greek word from which we get the English word dynamite. SPEAKER D Dynamite? SPEAKER C Yeah, the dunamis power of God. SPEAKER E Yeah, basically dynamite. There's no shortage of power with God. Just remember this, god created the whole universe by the power of his word. And so there's no lack of power on God's part. We only have to ask. And he says that, doesn't he? In Luke, chapter eleven, how many times did he says ask? SPEAKER C Five or six times, I think it's ask. SPEAKER E Yeah, find. And so there's no shortage of power with God. The problem is that many or even most Christians don't know how to let God manifest his dynamount power in their lives for victory over every temptation and sin. So I want to reassure you from God's word that the Christian can truly live a victorious life through Jesus Christ our Lord. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER E And basically, this 50 days devotional is all about helping you understand, under the Holy Spirit's enlightenment, discover that truth for yourself. Now, the first step in experiencing the complete deliverance jesus wants you to have over sin. And you might want to write this one down. We're going to give you the steps. The first step in experience the complete deliverance Jesus wants you to have over sin is to recognize that you have no power within yourself to obtain the victory. So the first step you've got to come to is you have no power within yourself to obtain the victory. Now, most of the self help books out there, and most religions will tell you that you have the power within. SPEAKER C You've got to dig deep. SPEAKER E It's from within. Every major religion, spiritualism major religion in the world, say that power is from within. Yet the Bible says that you have no power from within to overcome. SPEAKER C The Bible teaches that power has got to come from without. SPEAKER E It's got to come from God else yeah, it's got to come from outside. So that's the first step. You must recognize and come to that decision and say, I have no power with myself to obtain the victory. You must realize that you're absolutely helpless when it comes to overcoming the temptations in your life. And you know that's true, because you know what? You've tried it and I've tried it. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Yes. Willpower. Sometimes I can do it, but sometimes I don't. But eventually you fall. SPEAKER C Willpower runs very quickly, I've noticed. SPEAKER E That's right. Basically, you have a will, but you don't have any power. That's right. So you must realize you're absolutely helpless when it comes to overcoming the temptations in your life. That's step one. The natural born sinful nature is so strong in you that its power will make you a slave to it unless the power of God delivers you from that slavery. This is the very point Paul was making in Romans, chapter seven. Yes, the very point. So the natural response of every Christian to God's command is to put forth effort, with God's help, to try to obey, isn't it? So we say, I got to put an effort in, and can you help me, Lord? SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E So it's like my effort plus God's help. Well, how much help do you think you need? 10% of God's help. 50%, 80% even? 99%. SPEAKER C And you do 1% of God as 99? SPEAKER E No, you need 100% of God. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C So we don't believe in being saved by faith and works. It's faith alone. SPEAKER E That's right. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E So what I want you to realize is that your striving to obey will cause you to fail every time. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And I know it's true because I've tried it and it happens to me every time. You do not have it in you to obey. No matter how hard you try, you don't have it in you to obey, even if you think you can. With God's added power united with your effort to obey, you must realize that you can do absolutely nothing to live an obedient life. As far as putting forth effort is concerned, this is because of the extremely powerful sinful nature that we have, that we all have that resides in us. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E Instead of you struggling with a temptation, you must depend 100% on Christ for the victory. And so we want to emphasize so strongly the fact that our victory over temptation and sin comes only as we allow Christ to live out his life in us, not by struggling with the temptation. Our struggle and there is a struggle. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E Our struggle is to maintain our hold on God and keep faith in his promises for victory because he promises he will give you the victory. SPEAKER D That's right. SPEAKER C So when the temptation comes, it's not trying to grit your teeth and pump your muscles up and try harder. It's actually by abiding in Christ that's the temptation is to draw you away from your source of power, which is Christ. SPEAKER E That's right. And so you got a choice. You either focus on the temptation, all right? And then what you do is you try and overcome it. Please help me, Lord, please help me and try and overcome it, all right? And you can't or you can turn to Christ and ask Him for the victory and believe it by faith that he will give you the victory. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER E And I love what Peter says in two, Peter, chapter one, verse four, peter just unpacks it beautifully here. SPEAKER C It says, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these, that is, through the promises that have been given to us, you may be partakers of the divine nature having escaped the corruption or the depravity that is in the world through lust. SPEAKER E Wow. So we've got this great, exceedingly promise by God. So God's basically promised that we can be partakers of the divine nature. What an incredible promise to be partakers of the divine nature of God having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And so Peter goes on to tell us that as we partake of this divine nature which is Christ living in us amen. That's where it's at. We will be growing more and more like Christ. And as we overcome our sinful nature's effort to manifest sinful desires, we'll develop faith, virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, godliness brotherly kindness and love. Just they're all the fruits of the Spirit. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER E In Galatians 522, love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, long suffering, temperance, even. And even in Ephesians chapter five, verse nine, paul points out that the fruit of the Spirit is Godliness and righteousness. So how do we receive the Spirit? By receiving Christ. That's right, Christ lives in us through the Spirit and so this is how we receive the divine nature of Christ living in us. And I just love what two Corinthians chapter three, verse 18 says where Paul gives us incredible promise as well. SPEAKER C So it's actually where our focus needs to be, isn't it? But we all with unveiled face beholding, as in the mirror, the glory of the Lord. So that beholding has to be there. By beholding we become changed. Sorry just to interrupt this little reading a little bit here, but even the psychologists say that people move to their most constant dominant thoughts. So whatever occupies your mind the most is what you become. SPEAKER E Like you are what you eat. SPEAKER C For example, if you dwell on good things, you become better in your thoughts you but dwell on bad things, you become what you think of. So if someone's thinking depressing thoughts, they keep on thinking them, they become more depressed and they can actually be a downward spiral. And for someone that's actually suffered with depression, I've realized that I myself got to as soon as there's a thought that's negative, I've got to take that thought and move it away straight away so I can dwell on the positive. So here, coming back to this beautiful text, but we with unveiled face, beholding is in the mirror, the glory of the Lord. So we got to see the glory which is the character of God. The glory of the Lord are being transformed by beholding we become changed into the same image. So by beholding the glory of the Lord, we transform to that same glorious image from glory to glory. So it's a process, we begin in glory and there's more glory to follow just as by the spirit of the Lord. SPEAKER E So there's the how. Yeah, so I love what Paul's saying as we behold. So who are you to behold Christ Jesus? As you behold Christ and look unto Jesus. Right, it says, the glory of the Lord. You're changed into the same image into the image of Jesus by beholding Jesus, by spending time with Jesus, by walking with Jesus, spending time in his word and reflecting on his life and his death and his resurrection. By beholding, it says, you're changed in the same image from glory to glory. Now God's glory. In Exodus chapter 25 when Moses asks God's glory, he says, show me your glory. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And God said, yeah, I'll show you my glory. And it's found in Exodus chapter 25. And he says, I'll let all my goodness pass before you. I am merciful, long suffering, I am good. And then interestingly. So God describes his character and he says, I'll let my name pass before you. So God's glory is his name and his character. And you can even find in Revelation chapter 14, verse one, where it says god. This is God's last day, people, the last people who are living before Jesus comes. It says they have the Father's name written on their forehead. SPEAKER C So that's the glorious revelation of the character of God to the world. SPEAKER E And then, interesting, you read straight after that. When he says, I'll show you my glory, he then gives Him God, gives Moses His law, the Ten Commandments, which are a transcript or transcript of his glory or his character. So God's glory is his law, his name, his character. And interestingly in Revelations 18, verse one, where it talks about just before Jesus comes, when this latter reign of the Holy Spirit is going to be poured out on God's people. The latter reign of the Spirit, those who have grown in the early reign of the Holy Spirit, which is the daily baptism of the Holy Spirit of Christ in you the hope of glory. Yes, remember the hope of glory change into his glory. It says that God's glory is going to light up this earth through his people. SPEAKER C So the glory of God, which is the glory that God is in heaven, his character is somehow going to be revealed on earth. So how would it be revealed? Is there going to be like a bright shining light somewhere in the sky? How is that going to work? SPEAKER E Through his people. SPEAKER C Through his people. SPEAKER E Through his people they will develop. They will grow into the likeness of Jesus and they will have his character. They will have the faith of Jesus, the character of Jesus. They'll have God's law written on their mind and hearts. That's why in Revelations 14 it says they have the Father's name written on their foreheads. Yes, they have. SPEAKER C So that's a great transformation from being a sinful, fallen, erring human being to having that transformation that we can become more and more like Jesus until we reveal that loving character of God. SPEAKER E And that's a process. This is why it's glory to glory. It's from character development, from character to character. And those people who receive the latter reign of the Holy Spirit, who grow in this early reign, holy Spirit of Christ, in the hope of glory, they are going to repeat the three angels messages of Revelations 14, six to twelve, in the most powerful demonstration of God's love that has ever been seen on this planet. It says it'll be like the days of Pentecost, but even greater. And they're going to demonstrate God's glory or his character, and they're going to reflect his character, they're going to have his law written on their mind hearts. And Revelations 14, it does say that. It says the people who give the three angels messages in Revelations 14 six to twelve, it says, here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus. SPEAKER C Beautiful thoughts to close on there on our second half, colin and I just love that the fact that it's through. The exceedingly great and precious promises that have been given to us that we can become partakers of the divine nature. You mentioned before about that power that we find in the words of Christ, that dunamis dynamite power. And Romans, chapter one, the introduction to the book which we studied a little bit out of today, actually says that Paul says he's not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power, the dynamite power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew, and then also to the Greek. And then it says for in it the righteousness of God is revealed. As we just read from glory to glory. It says, the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith. SPEAKER E It's a process. SPEAKER C It is a process. SPEAKER D Amen. SPEAKER C Well, dear listener, we're just going to take a short break to share our contact details with you and we'll come back just for some closing remarks. After that, stay tuned. Thank you for joining us on You Shall Receive Power. If you would like more information about today's program or if you have any questions, please contact 3ABN Australia Radio by Phoning 024-973-3456. Or you can send an email to [email protected]. You can also contact us on our 3ABN Australia radio Facebook page. We look forward to hearing from you SPEAKER C Welcome back. We are just wrapping up our program today and it was looking at the sinful nature and its efforts to control us. And just before the break we were talking about by beholding Jesus, we can become changed into his image from glory to glory. And dear listener, we pray that you would actually receive the power of the gospel, the good news of salvation, through Jesus Christ, which is able to transform and change our lives so that we can become more like Jesus. Love the Father as he loved the Father, and love our fellow man as he loved his fellow man as well. SPEAKER E And basically so it's through Christ living in us by the Holy Spirit that we are moment by moment and day by day, changed into Christ's image. Every temptation we overcome by allowing Christ to manifest himself in that particular area of our life will lead us to be changed into the image of Christ in that area of our life. That is why Paul writes that we are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. By the spirit of the Lord. SPEAKER D Yes. Amen. SPEAKER E And since the power of our sinful nature is overcome by Christ living in us, there's the secret. The power of our sinful nature is overcome by Christ living in us. And interestingly, I want to just leave you with this. In Revelation chapter ten, verse seven, it talks about the 7th trumpet being blown. SPEAKER D Yes. SPEAKER E And the 7th trumpet is the last trumpet before Christ comes. It's just why the seven last plagues are happening? Why all disasters happening on the earth. It says, the mystery of God will be revealed to the universe. And the mystery of the universe is found in colossians 126 and 27 and 28 29, which says the mystery of Godliness is Christ in you. SPEAKER D You the hope of glory. SPEAKER E The hope of glory. SPEAKER D Yeah. SPEAKER C The word glory mentioned again. SPEAKER E There it is. SPEAKER D Yeah. Amen. SPEAKER C Thank you, Colin. And thank you, dear listener, for spending time with us today in this beautiful study. We pray that God will continue to bless you as you study and minister and continue to behold Jesus and to be filled daily with the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Until next time. God bless you. SPEAKER C You've been listening to a production of. SPEAKER E Three ABN Australia radio.